It’s time to move on - Tucson Local Media: Northwest Chatter

It’s time to move on

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  • Paul Lotz posted at 4:18 pm on Sun, Apr 27, 2014.

    Paul Lotz Posts: 1

    Thelma Grimes poses what I think is an often-asked question. I thought, "I know this one!" I would offer for consideration in response that the issue of the right to life is in the end a justice issue (not merely a religious issue, although certain religious communities do have principles according to which this stands out more clearly; and still less solely a matter of personal opinion), and a quite essential one. Hence Roe v. Wade could no more bring an end to work on behalf of the unborn (when carried out respectfully and prudently, working as far as possible for the benefit of all parties) than Dred Scott v. Sandford could terminate efforts for those oppressed by the institution of slavery. We are better off because the struggles for justice for all continued.

  • A Citizen posted at 9:56 am on Wed, Apr 23, 2014.

    A Citizen Posts: 15

    Richard, I'm not going to get into all the points where we disagree, but I just wanted to point out that it was Abraham Lincoln himself who said:

    They [the slave owners] are just what we would be in their situation.

    When they remind us of their constitutional rights, I acknowledge them, not grudgingly, but fully, and fairly.

  • John Flanagan posted at 9:19 am on Wed, Apr 23, 2014.

    John Flanagan Posts: 380

    The position that one is personally opposed to abortion, but believes it is the right of others to abort their children would be similar to a person living in pre-Civil War America stating that they personally oppose slavery but it is acceptable for others to be pro-slavery. This idea is morally untenable.
    With 50 million unborn children destroyed in the womb since Roe vs Wade, the statistics of the abortion industry state categorically that in more than 90 percent of abortions, the reason is the child was unwanted, inconvenient, interfering with a woman's self interest alone, while a fraction were done because of the woman's health, incest, or rape.
    We are speaking about a child, not a lump of tissue, an unborn child made in the image of God. That is the issue, and feminism aside, should women's rights be placed before the simple right of a child to live and breathe? As I am pro-life, I have followed the gains and losses of the movement over decades, and it should be pointed out that many of the most ardent and effective voices in the pro-life corner are...women! If it seems morally wrong to destroy an unborn child, and if this pricks the conscience of many Americans, than it is simply because we inherently know it is evil. This notion outrages the pro-abortion groups, many feminists, and Planned Parenthood, as they view this as a right, and the innocent child in the way of the exercise of this right must be sacrificed.
    I suppose the clear facts, known by physicians, obstetricians, scientists, and accepted by people of faith, have been lost on the pro-abortion politicians, the profiteers at Planned Parenthood, and on a sizable number of American women....the fact that upon conception the tiny tenant in the human womb grows 3-4 weeks the babies head and spine are forming, arm buds appear, than the little legs begin to emerge. The process continues the way God intended and by 10 weeks there are eyelids, fingernails. By 20 weeks the child is very active and had gained weight. There is no doubt to anyone but the most callous that this child is viable and precious, yet politicians like Obama and a large slew of pro-abortion Democrats and some Republicans supported even late term abortion as an established Constitutional right. What nation can claim to aspire to a high standard where unborn children perish so casually?
    No. It is not time to move on. So long as abortions are being conducted so willfully in our land, the pro-life movement will live on. We cannot abandon the little children yet to be born. It is a battle worth fighting. And despite claims to the contrary, God is on our side.


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